Posts by Fire Dragon

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HELP!!!! I NEED FEEDBACK PLEASE!!!!

by Prisila in

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i really need your feedback .

i am really down on the dumps regarding being shunned and torn apart about da (i haven't yet).

a week ago i wrote to dr. phil on oprah and wrote briefly about jw practices on shunning.

Fire Dragon

YES!!!!! Go through with it! It will help expose the dubs ridiculous practices!! It may even help out Silent Lambs! Go for it!! I am totally available for supportive comments on the practice. Heck, I'll even be on the show with you!

-Fire

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Governing Body Poll

by Mister Biggs in

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which people or characters remind you most of the governing body?.

a) statler and waldorf from 'the muppet show' .

b) the three stooges.

Fire Dragon

G) All of the above, except the Jedi Council.

The Jedi Council actually has some sense and wisdom! Even though they were power hungry, they still looked out for the best interest of others besides themselves.

-Fire

Edited by - Fire Dragon on 29 July 2002 13:18:41

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SPIRITUAL FEAST

by Larry in

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now read.

may we continue .

it was very fine.

Fire Dragon

Hot damn!! Nail on the head.

I feel like I just attended a meeting....shudder to think. Shake it off....

-Fire

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Update: My Uncle's funeral

by Fire Dragon in

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well my friends....my real friends...the funeral is over.

i can count 5 witnesses...only 5, that offered any sort of comfort to me.

those are the ones that i know really love(d) me.

Fire Dragon

Thanks for your support everyone!!

Not only did they use the funeral as a chance to witness, but at the end of the funeral talk the 'brother' basically did a JW commercial!! I was disgusted. He made reference to my uncle being a witness and preaching about God's Kingdom and then admonished everyone else to do the same. 'We should be like Brother Cloud and use our time alive to preach from house to house...blah, blah, blah'

My grandma just sat there shaking her head.

-Fire

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Let The Dead Bury The Dead

by Larry in

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yesterday was the first time me or anybody else visited my father's grave site - he died in 1977. he was a non-jw and never liked the them, but he liked the fact that my mother was.

ironically, i think he died the same day as nathan knorr.

anyway, this experience has helped me to see the real meaning of 'showing respect.

Fire Dragon

I haven't had it yet, but I plan to visit my maternal Grandmother's grave soon. I'm looking forward to it. I often 'talk' to her now...something I never would have done as a dub.

No one ever dies as long as they are remembered. There are a lot of dead among the dubs.

-Fire

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Do you love people more now that you're out?

by writerpen in

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i was thinking about this the other day.

since i've left the borg, i find myself loving other humans more.

like all the little children being abducted, the miners trapped in the mine last week, the victims of car accidents that i pass on the road, a woman crying in the car next to me while waiting for the green light, the homeless that i see every weekend at a local soup kitchen where i volunteer, etc.

Fire Dragon

Not only do I love them more, but I find that I am less judgemental. All the dubs say they don't judge but that's bullswhollup!

-Fire

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Seeking your opinions on contacting relatives

by Swan in

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it's been eight years since i have spoken to any of my relatives.

some (cousins, nieces, nephews) were young children at the time; now some are 18 and older.

they are not allowed to speak to me, but of course those rules don't apply in the reverse.

Fire Dragon

I'm glad you posted this question. I have been burned badly by my parents this weekend at my uncle's funeral. I think anger rules my emotions right now. I want nothing to do with them anymore. I asked my mom how some in the congregation are doing and she said that I should show up at the KH and see for myself. I asked why I should go to the KH when no one will talk to me...I will SEE them yes but that doesn't tell me how they are doing. I want to go to the KH for a meeting and not talk to my parents...see how they like being shunned! Many say that I shouldn't "stoop to their level" but I also know that those who live by the sword....

My parents have used their sword to cut me out of their lives....I feel like doing the same to them. Maybe this thread will help me take a more objective view.

-Fire

Edited by - Fire Dragon on 29 July 2002 10:7:59

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Update: My Uncle's funeral

by Fire Dragon in

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well my friends....my real friends...the funeral is over.

i can count 5 witnesses...only 5, that offered any sort of comfort to me.

those are the ones that i know really love(d) me.

Fire Dragon

Well my friends....my REAL friends...the funeral is over. I can count 5 witnesses...only 5, that offered ANY sort of comfort to me. Those are the ones that I know really love(d) me. My parents put on a good show for the worldly family. Once the day was over they returned to their evil shunning ways. As my mom was getting into her car to go home, I asked her when I'd be invited for dinner. She said, "See you at the KH." I asked my dad the same question as he was leaving to go home and he said, "You know I can't...(a worldly relative walks up)...well, you know the story." He couldn't even finish his original sentence of 'you know I CAN'T do that.' I know that he can and just WON'T.

Also, my mom said that she loved me and I replied that actions speak louder than words. I told her that I'd see her whenever someone died again. We ended up getting into a big argument about the Christian quality of love. She said that everybody loved me but just couldn't show it. I said, 'No, those that comfort you in your time of sorrow are the ones that love you. And they are the ones that know the meaning of what it is to be a Christian. I know who REALLY loves me now.' We discussed the UN and the origin of the WTS. She said I didn't know all the facts. I told her that she was the one that didn't know them because she refused to look outside WTS literature to do research.

Earlier my dad had pulled me aside and told me that I shouldn't be around any of the witnesses that came to my aunt's (not a JW) house after the funeral. I said, "Are you asking me to leave?" He said that no, he just didn't want me to be in the same room with the witnesses because I might "make someone uncomfortable." (Mind you they were in every room.) He was distracted for a moment and I took that opportunity to walk out on him. I got in my car to go home. My aunt came up to me and asked why I was leaving. Thru choked words and tears I told her that I had to go. She asked why and I told her because I'm not a witness anymore and I told her what my dad had said. She asked me to stay and said, "This is MY house and if they're uncomfortable then THEY can leave!" (100 Cool Points for my aunt. ) That was the highlight of my day and I stayed until everyone of the JWs left and then some...until almost 9pm.

I know now that I do have family that loves me and I am welcome in their home....regardless of my "parents". All in all it went as expected. I don't have a relationship with my parents anymore as far as I'm concerned.

Edited by - Fire Dragon on 29 July 2002 9:51:4

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